good news from new wikiLeaked tpp memos from talks in november

Sorry, this post will be  by way of a copy/paste nasty garbage public service announcement (sounds better in the original faux French) all the way.  Life beckons, and all that rot.  These sources all have received the new memos; the link to them is below.


The US is ramping up pressure to secure a Trans-Pacific Trade Deal with conditions that could undermine the national interests of nations involved. WikiLeaks documents say talks are “paralyzed,” with the US refusing to compromise on disputed issues.

Anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks has released two documents revealing the state of negotiations for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). The deal in question includes 12 countries – the United States, Japan, Mexico, Canada, Australia, Malaysia, Chile, Singapore, Peru, Vietnam, New Zealand and Brunei – which represent more than 40 percent of the world’s gross domestic product.
(Some 119 issues are still unresolved as negotiations continue in Singapore.)

Among the issues blocking the agreement stipulates new powers for multinationals that would allow them to challenge country laws in privately run international courts. Washington has endorsed such powers in previous trade deals such as the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), but conditions in the TPP could grant multinational more powers to challenge a wider range of laws. Under NAFTA several companies including Dow Chemicals and Exxon Mobil have sought to overrule regulations on fracking, oil drilling and drug patents.
Furthermore, among the rumored conditions in the treaty are new standards that would grant pharmaceutical companies new intellectual property rights. The regulations would extend patents, giving companies monopolies on new medications and potentially pushing up prices in the developing countries participating in the deal.

Speaking of the TPP chapter that was WikiLeaked last month, Julian Assange makes no bones about it:

“If instituted, the TPP’s IP regime would trample over individual rights and free expression, as well as ride roughshod over the intellectual and creative commons,” said WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in a November statement. “If you read, write, publish, think, listen, dance, sing or invent; if you farm or consume food; if you’re ill now or might one day be ill, the TPP has you in its crosshairs.”

WikiLeaks has provided the pdf’s to the memos from the Salt Lake talks of unknown to us origin, one document describing the deep divisions between the United States and other nations, and “great pressure” being exerted by the US negotiators to move other nations to their position, and the second showing charts of the positions the individual nations held at the time of the memo.  It’s hard to read it sideways.

From the IB Times:

The controversial proposal on investor-state dispute settlement, which allows corporations to sue governments over local regulations, has been one of the key barriers in reaching an agreement on investment under TPP. Only the U.S. and Japan support the proposal, the documents showed, while other nations have objected to it and the U.S. is unwilling to allow changes suggested by other negotiators.

Negotiations on financial deregulation proposed under the TPP, restricting governments’ ability to regulate financial services firms and control the flow of short-term capital in and out of economies, also remain paralyzed due to “zero flexibility” on the part of the U.S., the documents said.

The documents also showed that a stalemate continues on a range of issues including a proposal for privatizing state-owned enterprises or for eliminating subsidies given to them as well as on a proposal to improve the entry of goods into different markets. Other issues with little consensus include environment regulation, trade of tobacco and agricultural export subsidies, according to the documents.


Also according to the December memo, the U.S. has reintroduced a proposal that would hamper government health services from negotiating lower drug prices with pharmaceutical companies. The proposal appears to have been universally rejected earlier in the talks, according to the memo.

Australia and New Zealand have medical boards that allow the government to reject expensive new drugs for the public health system, or negotiate lower prices with drug companies that own patents on them. If a new drug does not offer sufficient benefits over existing generic drugs, the boards can reject spending taxpayer money on the new medicines. They can also refuse to pay high prices for new drugs. The Obama administration has been pushing to ban these activities by national boards, which would lock in big profits for U.S. drug companies. Obamacare sought to mimic the behavior of these boards to lower domestic health care costs by granting new flexibilities to U.S. state agencies for determining drug prices.

The U.S. is also facing major resistance on bank regulation standards. The Obama administration is seeking to curtail the use of “capital controls” by foreign governments. These can include an extremely broad variety of financial tools, from restricting lending in overheated markets to denying mass international outflows of currency during a financial panic. The loss of these tools would dramatically limit the ability of governments to prevent and stem banking crises.

 Shock doctrine for lesser nations, President Obomba?  So nice to see some nations are pushing back on your evil ‘deal’ in aid of the Multinationals you serve.  Hope this deal goes into the Dustbin of History soon, you con man’s con man.

You may donate to WikiLeaks here through the Freedom of the Press Foundation; the PayPal blockade apparently hasn’t been resolved yet to WikiLeaks’ satisfaction yet.

(cross-posted at

29 responses to “good news from new wikiLeaked tpp memos from talks in november

  1. The USA is the only Western country that does not control patent drug prices. every other country has a board, and a process for setting the price.

    Canada is in the middle, price wise, Italy is I think the lowest.

    As each day goes by, there is new proof of the vile corrupt nature of Obama.

    every single day, something he did, is doing, or wants to do, that benefits only himself, comes to light. despicable man, and a perfect President of the USA is it is now operated.

    He should be celebrating the achievements of Robert Mugabe, not Mandela.

  2. i’d add to ‘benefits only himself’: and those plotocrats he serves’, but that may be a distinction without a difference, eh? mugabe not mandela: yes. too bad canada is pushing so hard for this thing, eh?

    i also saw in passing, but did not click in, that the cbc didn’t show the actual documents they were given about canada spying for the nsa. if i see it, i’ll grab it. in the meantime, i neglected to post further info on this mess that i found thru wikileaks this morning, since no one seemed to be reading here. i’ll paste most of it now. oh, and nice to see you; i hope you’ve been well. or as they jest around here: ‘well enough for who it’s for’. :)

  3. ‘WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 1h
    #TPP: ‘final round‘ of 12-nation #TPP talks in Singapore has failed to reach agreement.
    ‘Ambassador Michael Froman was being interviewed remotely by CNBC. Froman was in Singapore, in a mostly empty room following the closing press conference for the TPP Ministerial meeting.’
    Terrible sound, but WL says he’s asked about the leaked memos at about 2 minutes. Froman says he hasn’t seen them, lol, but everything’s just going super swimmingly. :)

    International agreement reached controlling export of mass and intrusive surveillance technology’ By: Edin Omanovic 09-Dec-2013
    “Two new categories of surveillance systems were added into the dual-use goods and technologies control list of the Wassenaar Arrangement last week in Vienna, recognising for the first time the need to subject spying tools used by intelligence agencies and law enforcement to export controls.

    While there are many questions that still need to be answered, Privacy International cautiously welcomes these additions to the Wassenaar Arrangement. Undoubtedly, these new controls don’t cover everything they could, but the recognition that something needs to be done at Wassenaar level is a foundation to build from.”


    We, the Ministers and Heads of Delegation for Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, the United States, and Vietnam, have just completed a four-day Ministerial meeting in Singapore where we have made substantial progress toward completing the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement.

    Over the course of this meeting, we identified potential “landing zones” for the majority of key outstanding issues in the text. We will continue to work with flexibility to finalize these text issues as well as market access issues.
    For all TPP countries, an ambitious, comprehensive and high-standard agreement that achieves the goals established in Honolulu in 2011 is critical for creating jobs and promoting growth, providing opportunity for our citizens and contributing to regional integration and the strengthening of the multilateral trading system.

    Therefore, we have decided to continue our intensive work in the coming weeks toward such an agreement. We will also further our consultations with stakeholders and engage in our respective political processes.”

    Following additional work by negotiators, we intend to meet again next month.” (downloadable attachment, heh.)

    This is great. ‘TPP leak: US babies following bathwater down the drain:

    America has overplayed its hand’
    “According to the ministerial statement posted by Knowledge Economy International (KEI), the “significant progress” achieved in Singapore wasn’t enough to seal the deal.
    The boilerplate for “this is a mess” says: “have decided to continue our intensive work in the coming weeks toward such an agreement”, and “following additional work by negotiators, we intend to meet again next month.”
    In other words, all the non-US countries can expect a small blip in their inbound tourism as Men In Black from the USTR, copyright rent-seekers, the US pharmaceutical industry ship in to be conducted around diplomatic missions and any ministerial office that will receive them.
    Things went so badly that statements from the USTR indicate there won’t be a December meeting. The next round will “probably” be held in January, according to Tweets from KEI director James Love, who is on the ground. ® ”

    Kgb999: I was under the impression that the TPP was being expedited under a Trade Promotion Authority. Upon further research, it appears that is not yet the case. At one point the TPA was pretty much seen as a done deal, I thought they’d passed it.
    I guess that deal fell apart. They’re still actively pushing it. So it’s nice that battle hasn’t been lost yet.

    wd again:
    Ha; better piece than mine:
    “The deal with Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam would be the largest trade agreement ever inked by the United States. Negotiators hope for a broad deal that covers trade in goods and services as well as regulatory barriers.
    In order to finalize the deal, the Obama administration is seeking new trade powers from Congress. Fast-track authority would allow the administration to bring a bill to Congress and force and up-or-down vote on the text without amendments.
    A bill granting the “fast track” power, with conditions, could be unveiled by the Senate Finance and House Ways and Means Committee this week.”
    So…it’s already been unveiled. And is being pushed. Well, it figures; this has been on the agenda for a long, long time. The folks who say they’ll never sign another petition are not just woofin’ about their ineffectiveness, at least on the Biggies, eh?

    This link has the news out of the recent WTO meetings in Bali. Argh.

    kgb, from da wiki, i assume; it’s there:

    Wow. Looking at it closer, we kind of dodged a bullet. The previous TPA expired July 2007 … and applies to any negotiation started during it’s existence. Unfortunately for Obama, the TPP discussions didn’t start until January 2008.
    ‘Of course, never one to establish legislative authority prior to acting, dear leader is proceeding as if the law is still in force and carrying out negotiations under TPA precepts.’

  4. Excerpts from the O-mouth, Mandela speech, in today’s guise as Mr Hypocrite-In-Chief were truly gut-wrenching.

    Bread for Peace Tuesday, I take it, Mz Davis, thrilled to read the post and to be able to pass it on. Thanks for your persistence at resistance.

    Morning Mark. 0°F and the wind chill -15 and getting worse in the next two days. Ice forming on the Great Lakes reduces winter evaporation and helps preserve lake levels.

  5. kind of you, nonquixote. it’s also international human rights day, and if obomba marks it, i might have to do a rush transcript of any video. good god all friday, i can’t believe anyone can still defend him, tbogg aside. but i just read a piece at a place i used to blog, asserting that he would one day be known as the best president ever, and gave a whole list of white house propaganda to back up his claims. there were no dissenters of any serious note to his post. unbelievable, not to mention that the author is black, making his credulousness even worse, in my estimation.

    ‘persistance at resistance’: a wonderful phrase!

    i have sorta given up sending food out of here in honor of terror tuesday, not that that day is the only day his serenity kills people now… but we’re facing some other situations that require tweaking our…helping.

    bless you and your daughter. you parent kids forever, as we’ve been told by so many folks. i even dream of caring for kids, lol. some of their faces, oh, my.

  6. Yesterday, I politely tore a new one for an apologist who was quoting the, “we’re providing the social ladders,” speech. My bent was socially, “funded,” ladders, guaranteeing uninhibited corporate profits (insurance, banks, agribiz, etc) and the bounce off a safety net was kind of muted by weight of the heavy metal chains to the CPI, cuts to food assistance et al.
    Peace and good dreams.

  7. NPR hourly news states the FREE TRADE ZONE talks are stalled. No reference to the title “TPP,” at all.

  8. hello…. ” 0°F and the wind chill -15 ”

    we’re hoping to go up to that temperature.

    close to -30 C last night. but that is well below average or normal.

  9. I turned on democracy now, heard Obama, and turned it off. fortunately only about four or five words got through, cause I moved pretty quick over to the volume control.

    and canned the show for the day.

  10. we had the Northern lights the other evening. probably the most beautiful thing I’ve seen, is the Northern lights.

  11. i’m sure you were very polite, nonquixote; there are times when i (ahem) lose my restraint. sometimes i regret it, sometimes not. did you get any feedback after your ‘correction’ to the meme that indicated your listeners were hearing you?

    not only is that designation perfidious, it’s a lie, unless they would explain that it means a Free Ride for the plundering multinationals as they ‘ride’ roughshod over the Rabble, which really is the whole point. yeah, there are a few tariff considerations, but don’t even understand most of that. there was a section on currency, too, leaked in 2011, iirc, but again: can’t get it, but it may be tied into the ‘capital controls’ section. that one pissed me off, too, given that NATO and AFRICOM are simply trying to create instability and chaos that they can use as a reason to ride to the rescue, and recolonize while they make the places safe for cheap resource grabs, cheap labor, etc. to wit: haiti, and hell, how many other places?

  12. whoosh; we moved down south from hahn’s peak on the co/wy border due to temps like that; i just couldn’t take it no mo’. but ah, the northern lights! have only seen them once, and oddly, it was here, probably a once in a lifetime even here. i am so envious, my goodness. saw some on a crappy film the other night, and often watch videos on youtube of recent sightings.

    the physics of it almost takes out some of the magic, eh? but here’s jerry jeff’s cowboy philosophy in which they figure. i’m goin’ with a scratchy record version. ;) think i told ya, but when i used to try to yodel when i rehearsed it, mr. wd would offer me money to…stop it.

    oh, and i can’t blame you a bit for being too revolted to listen to him. only times i have lately is to post about his lies and propaganda.

  13. many times I’ve seen the entire sky full 360 degrees, from one end to the other filled with shimmering snaking rapidly rippling constantly changing Northern lights. greenish white in colour.

    I don’t mind the -30, it’s just early for that. normal temp is quite a bit milder than that.

    It can be a little dangerous though.

  14. ‘many times’. ahhhh. the entire sky full of the shimmers… here it was just in one not-quite quadrant to the north and east, and as i remember it, other colors, too, besides green: blue and rose, perhaps, no white that i recall, but the show just changed and melted and reformed as though the long icicle shimmers dripped from flat but fuzzy strips that undulated in and out….just fairly made ya want to kneel with appreciation. just fancy what primitive people in the north must have made of it all.

    i appreciate your telling us about it, mark (mafr). bet you’ve learned to love hats, eh? ;) sleep well, and dream well. and hope that stephen harper doesn’t get his way on the tpp, the peckerwood.

  15. Michael J Cavlan

    Wendy Davis dear
    Occupy Minnesota is doing a forum on this very topic today Wed Dec 11 at 6 pm. I will be attending. The forum will be filed with all kinds of facts. Including how local “Progressive Congressional Caucus Co-Chair” Keith Ellison knew about the TPP and did NOTHING to warn us until it was too late. This is in Congressman Ellison’s 5th CD district.
    I would love to promote it on FDL but well- you know I got bounced from there. The book is going well and I am speaking at an event on Uniting People- Gathering Progressive Political Power” in Duluth Minnesota in January. We can be rest assured that Pheonix Women will not report on it. LOL

  16. good to see you, michael cavlan, and it’s good to hear your book is going well. can’t even imagine writing a whole book. isaiah is, too.

    as for the tpp, a lot of us have been writing about it since the original 2011 leaks, and it’s a serious power grab in eleventy different directions, all of which add up to fascism any way you slice it, although some folks say we’re already there. not quite, perhaps, but still…

    ellison and the progressives remind me of buffy’s great line, ‘if the bad guys don’t get ya, the good guys will’. it was all about bill bradley back in the day…but good on y’all for finding out more. gotta stop this somehow, long discussions about how over yonder, but all of them are again, far too slow for time left.

    no, i reckon pw won’t report on it. :)

    love, respect and solidarity to you, too.

  17. Morning wendy and friends,
    Still asking the questions, always asking the questions.

  18. go, ani!!! but voting, ay yi yi. ‘if voting really changed anything, they’d make it illegal’. (sorta emma goldman)

    i liked that she saw Consciousness Rising as a key, and ‘making amends’. yes!
    i usually use billy’s cover, i like the growl. and thank you for ani’s, a rare one, ain’t she? as is buffy.

  19. leMoyne brought this good letter by william black to the version over yonder,
    ‘Will the Chilean People Save the U.S. by Electing Michelle Bachelet?’ in part:

    “Progressives should urge Dr. Bachelet, should she be elected President, to make the full drafts of TPP public immediately. Dr. Bachelet is a pediatrician who doubtless treated victims of Chagas disease. She will understand fully the threat posed by the TPP to public health. I urge her to demand that the draft TPP be scrapped and fundamentally changed to build democracy and national sovereignty and to control the multinational corporations rather than allow them and their plutocrat panels to dominate and denigrate democracy and national sovereignty.

    CEOs are mounting their most audacious assault on national sovereignty, the rule of law, and democracy through TPP. If this assault succeeds there will no longer be any democratic means to defeat the CEOs. The assault cannot be mounted openly, for the peoples of the world would reject the CEOs’ demands by an overwhelming margin. The assault is taking place under conditions of extreme secrecy. But for groups like Public Citizen and WikiLeaks we would have woken up to a fait accompli and had no democratic recourse.”

    He notes at length the section, advising a *possibly* more humane course for certain diseases, and ‘providing treatment for all’ , but excepting ‘chaga’, a virulent disease that is killing many people in latin america, 8 million now infected.

  20. I was going to respond to the fdl version of this, wendye, to your last comment, but I got a flat “This service is temporarily unavailable” – couldn’t get there, so as I was saying –

    Don’t want to be too down on voting as of course if you know somebody still who you think is worth voting for – by all means try; you might slip her/him in under the radar.

    But mainly I wanted to give this paragraph of good cheer from over at counterpunch:

    Pandora’s Promise, the pro-nuclear propaganda film whose billionaire backers ensured a prolonged distribution campaign, is finally fading from view. Its ignominious dispatch was helped along by the recent pronouncement by World Bank president, Jim Yong Kim, that nuclear energy would have no part in the bank’s goal to bring electricity to all people by 2030. Not only did the bank reject nuclear energy due to its security risks, it also preferred renewables from an economic standpoint. “We will show investors that sustainable energy is an opportunity they cannot afford to miss,” Kim said.

    Give that man a round of applause! Now, if we can just hang on to our slot in the galaxy unti 2030…

  21. thanks julianna

  22. Just had a thought that hubris may be our best friend in these matters – that is, as with the ACA, TPP is yet another attempt to play eleventy-eleven chess on a two dimensional chessboard – it ain’t gonna work! And because it won’t, there’s no way you kick the can any further down either of those roads.

    Free at last, free at last…

    Well, I can dream, can’t I? I was going to respond to nonquixote’s comment about the ‘social ladders’ that it works with health insurance aficionados also – they claim they are ‘supporting the poor’ – not so, in fact we ‘poor’ support them as we struggle to have a bit of dignity paying off some part of the bills that are so high because folk like them take MRI’s, colonoscopies,and brain surgery as a matter of course. (It’s small but satisfactory insight that a whole bunch of those are completely unnecessary.)

    Free at last, free at last…

  23. sorry to be absent; a long day here and there. i’ll see you in the mornin’, and have this to offer for now, lol:

  24. i’m not quite sure what you mean by ‘not being able to kick the ttp can further down the road’, j. yah, i haven’t ever missed a vote, although i don’t vote for any candidate in some races.

    gotta share this stupidity, though. i saw a headline about obomba’s ‘selfie’ at mandela’s service, and had to go find out what the term meant. as i did, i saw this piece at the daily mail. “Twitter fury over Dave’s selfie with Obama and a flirty Dane: Backlash over leaders’ picture at Mandela memorial service that left Michelle VERY unamused”

    what a tool he is. look at michelle.

  25. Featuring the home town musicians, thanks, wd. Interesting Memorial seating arrangement, looks like another “secret trade deal,” happening with Denmark, there, and Michelle didn’t appear to be in on the terms of the negotiations, but was only brought in on the signing ceremony. ;^)

    Listening to JonWalker being interviewed about his book from Ruth’s link at Over Easy right now. “After Legalization.”
    (a link to the broadcast link)

  26. Wendy, the problem is that gmail doesn’t respond to web forms.
    I’m going to try this with my backup dial up address.
    My regular address is


  27. i don’t quite take your meaning, but if you’re so inclined, email me at and i can make sure to forward your mail to ef beall. meanwhile, i’ll try yours, okay?

  28. ha! they are from madison, i hadn’t known, but i sure love them. ‘assholes on parade’ tickles me witless, too. i heard part of a walker interview yesterday, thank you for the link.

    ‘secret trade deal’ with a blonde bombshell’ is what michelle is thinking, and ‘shut up, ya tool!’

    @laura weare: i emailed you, haven’t heard back, just in case you’re reading here again. perhaps you’ve grabbed my address, and will email me instead?

  29. what a tool he is. look at michelle.

    It looks like he had no idea where he was, why he was there or what he was doing.

    making contacts is all this was, for most of those people.

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