whose tooth was this?

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the photo above is the front…  (sorry the photos aren’t better; all this software will accept are the jpegs and it won’t allow resizing.)

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the back…

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one side (you can see the places on the sides that appendages that may have made the v-shaped saddle shape *may have* been once…

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t’other side..

to bruce’s theory below.  the seller says it’s the oldest human tool made in north america.

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his site has some great graphics, including this one of the *true* Landlord…

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Bonus:   three of juliania’s lovley Icon paintings that she kindly gifted us.  hope it’s okay to include them, ww.

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this is a page of fossilized megalodon shark teeth; they vary greatly in size and color.  ours has barely discernible serrations on the sides, similar cracks in the enamel, ut again, no saddle shaped root that must plug into the cartilage of the..mandible?  this is da wiki; many opinions on size, but…huge.  and so old.  28 to 1.5 million years ago…i mean 6000 years ago.  :)  if this is a megalodon tooth, it would arguably be from an immature one.

 

17 responses to “whose tooth was this?

  1. Did Juliania paint those?

    beautiful!

  2. yes. exquisite, aren’t they?

    please be sure and read the post by unedited media at my.fdl; you will be glad of the tears it brings, i think.

  3. Great forensic photography. As a professional ichthyologist (playing at paleontology AND archaeology), I’d say it’s fossilized (crystallized pulp), probably Megalodon, but modified (root cusps removed) into a weapon point (prolly in the last 6000 years – for, and mebbe BY, those fundamentalists;~). Bite-The-Way, all sharks’ teeth are denticles of their epidermis, migrating into the maw, as needed to grow in size to replace those lost in their frequent feeding frenzies! :

  4. wow. what a thought, bruce. i hadn’t considered that *someone* may have intentionally shaped the tooth’s root. ‘cusps’: yes, rather than ‘wings’ or whatever (and i see i’ve misspelled megalOdon, and will fix it.

    but holy crow, yes, i did find that they were used a spear tips, and of course smaller teeth as embedded edges in rows for weapons. I’m embedding a photo of one of the former; damn, dude’s asking almost a million bucks for it! :) the back side of this one does have some missing bits in the root, sort of a shallow concave shape. oh, my.

    i’ll stick in a couple whimsical images as well.

    dude selling it says he can prove that it’s the earliest tool made by humans in north america.

    thank you for reminding me that sharks replace their teeth continually, too.

  5. Well, y’all’s “speartip” appears even more primitive and Maybe EARLIER! Dating it could drive a “gold tooth” bidding war, with Mega-BITE$!

  6. damn woman could have provided some provenance paperwork, eh, mithter
    ichthyologitht?

    how fun you’ve made this, not to mention informative? i wonder if i’ll hear back from kurt’s fothil friend? oh, and what did you mean by ‘crystallized pulp’? i did look up ‘denticles’, but mainly found exterior info, although i think i can see how they apply to teeth. maybe.

  7. Your forensic photos 3 & 4 show the fossilized pulp appears crystallized, perhaps indicating silica (quartz) infusion; greater ichth’s than I claim the epidermal denticles (‘sandpaper’ skin) of sharks constantly migrate forward into the mouth to grow into full oral teeth. BTW, sharks’ skin also used to be sold and utilized AS sandpaper.

  8. hmmm; it may be that my ‘forensic’ photos aren’t so good, as they seem to misrepresent the amount of white (silica?) on the broken, tooled sides. there is evidence of what you’re saying in the many small fissures, though, that jumped brighter as i brightened the photos.

    ah: of course: the *root* pulp, profethor ichth. but you seem to mean that the new teeth aren’t in rows behind the current ones, perhaps not even formed much at all? (guess i should have studied more in shark class. damn!

    it’s hard (my fault) to see at the top of the root stem, but there does seem to be a bit of a channel having been pecked, and a couple possibly-gone wrong chunks out of that line. of course, this one could be one akin to those failed arrowheads that the creator said ‘fuck it’, and tossed when one of the flanges at the base broke off. not too far east of here is a nice site at which folks seemed to flake tools, and the many colors of chert are pure delight! maybe chalcedony, too, iirc. love how they flake circularly.

  9. How fascinating, wendye and companions! And thank you for including my own little fossils – the antidote perhaps? Your photo is exceptionally fine, much better than my own.

    Where was it you found this amazing item, wendye; there in Colorado? Perhaps a warrior had brought it from the Great Lakes region when Lake Bonneville lapped at the foothills where I on my fatherinlaw’s magnificent Hidalgo rode the Bench…the bones of such sharks being accessible (and put to use) there. Seagulls were still round abouts in early Mormon times, and we have a bunch here too at our own little lake on the Rio Grande.

    The mightiest hooks for catching great fish were made by the maori out of shark’s jaws. even people’s jaws for that matter as they had some special aura and it is said that the alphahero of ancient times used his grandmother’s jaw to fish up Aotearoa itself.

  10. ah, well, your icons don’t lend themselves to flash photos since the egg tempera does reflect the flash. ambient light wasn’t sufficient at the time, though. through my googling, i did manage to find this good one at the saint nicholas center’s online gallery:

    http://www.stnicholascenter.org/galleries/gallery/5762/

    but gee, the story of how we came by it is far more pedestrian. the woman that mr. wd has done carpentry for over the past decade died recently. on her spread are four houses chock full of accumulated…stuff, far too much of it, even some of it is really good stuff: so much art! navajo rugs, and so forth. he has been helping the woman’s son to separate the good stuff from the trash, and he offered that mr. wd might ask for things he/we might like.

    the tooth was in a large box in some corner, along with two sandstone flakes with small fish fossils, but no paperwork at all with any of them, sadly. but i was intrigued as hell by the object, and hoped to discover jut what it might be. kurt sperry took the photos to his fossil friend, but his friend didn’t know about this sort of fossil.

    ye, i can see why both sorts of jaws might make good fish hooks, but the human kind having special power is…funny. and what about ‘the jawbone of an ass’? :)

  11. Wendye, your ability to do research just astounds me – I had no idea that little painting was floating around on the internet! Gee, I’m famous and I didn’t know it.

    (That was from back in the day when I was actually sawing my own boards so it’s priceless, heh. Son Stephen now obliges me – handy to have sons handy.)

  12. glad i found it along the way; i’d tried so many search terms to dig up the monks corner store. (you don’t seem to have any in the abiquiu monastery shop as far as i could tell.)

    but your st. nicholas is a peach, ennit? quite an honor it’s not for sale.

  13. No paintings for sale at Abiquiu, no, though I believe they did buy some at one point. Yes, thanks so much for the St. Nicholas – I’ve saved it and bookmarked the site.

    Hah, I was coming here wondering where I would put this link – you might have seen it but I’d overlooked it and it is a well written piece:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/02/the-navys-war-on-the-pacific-ocean/

    I figured it went with the shark’s tooth, eh? I would hate to be off topic.

  14. i had scanned the counterpunch piece and backed out, as it was too much for me at the time, juliania. might read it better later…

    wow, that’s some insect! well, *on topic* is often in the eye of the beholder, yes?

  15. I used to be deathly afraid of wetas in my youth, but the ones I sometimes encountered were not that much bigger than a large grasshopper. Thing is, they have the ability to hiss at you while waggling their antennas, but are actually harmless. Would that all weapons were so.

    Nice for the kiddies these are getting a good island home.

  16. Richard Sellers

    Better than my chompers, and I ain’t even extinctified yet.

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