A Ho’ Yotta Fun: New WikiLeaked Clinton E-mails Courtesy of Guccifer 2.0

These are from Part I, WikiLeaks just put up Part II. In order to see them larger or to see the subTweets below, click on one, then click back into the diary with the left arrow in the upper left-hand corner of your browser.  This first one’s great, but I’d hoped it was evidence that Billy had talked him into running.

in the sense of fair play, apparently.


No, this is NO FUN whatsoever; it’s hard to say which would be uglier: that Sanders had said this, or that Podesta’s lying out his bottom.  Plenty of other oppo-research in there, in any event.

“John: Bill Gates will be in DC on Dec 3-4 to give a speech on the importance of fighting poverty in the US and abroad even as we take steps to address our urgent and broader economic challenges. His talk will focus on US education and foreign assistance programs.”

“On another note, in the Seattle forum this week, Bill Gates really embraced a new deal for teachers, including performance pay and tenure reform. Randi and John Wilson did not push back. If Obama wants to do reform, he could get a very strong launch through a event with Gates, business leaders, and governors.”

In their ‘Elections Expose the Oligarchs’ newsletter this morning, Zeese and Flowers provide and overview of the emails and dug into the excerpts from the infamous speeches to Wall Street and other big bidness and deep-state groups, and demonstrated in the video above that the Trumpeter is not only a sexist groping pig, but knows that he’s above the law.  A few notable observations:

“The Podesta Emails also include some of Hillary Clinton’s private thoughts on healthcare. Speaking in Saskatoon, Canada and Grand Rapids, MI at private meetings, Clinton praised single payer healthcare systems like in Canada and Europe. She admits that they are more efficient and produce better results. Of course, if she said that in public her big donors from the insurance, pharmaceutical and investor-based health providers would stop funding her. In public, she is quick to oppose single payer as she did in the 90′s when she was First Lady and continues to do today. Thousands of lives are lost each year due to insurance-dominated healthcare and thousands more people go bankrupt. If Clinton were not so deceptive, told the truth and pushed for the real solution – along with other elected officials – the crisis in US healthcare could be ended. If she continues to deceive, the healthcare crisis will continue. Healthcare is one example of many where corruption trumps the public interest and prevents solving a crisis for millions in the United States.”

“She talks about only holding Wall Street accountable for political reasons and says “I represented and worked with” so many on Wall Street and “did all I could to make sure they continued to prosper.” The Wikileaks confirm what people already suspected – Clinton is on the Wall Street team, she praises them, will include them in her government and will make sure they continue to prosper.”

“Another 1,244 of the Podesta Emails reference focus on nuclear energy and the relationship between the Clinton’s and the nuclear industry and uranium mining. The Clinton Foundation received $140 million in donations from investors and executives of “Uranium One” which has mines, mills and tracts of land in Wyoming, Utah and other U.S. states equal to about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity. The corporation was sold to Russian interests and the coincidence of donations to the Clinton Foundation is raising questions because Secretary Clinton was one of the agency heads that had to approve the transaction because uranium is a strategic asset.

Most of the donations were given two years before the sale to Russia, although Chairman of Uranium One, Ian Telfer, donated between $1.3 million and $5.6 million to the Clinton Foundation during and after the review process for the Russian deal. The State Department staff member directly involved in making the decision was Jose Fernandez. He claims that Clinton had no influence on the decision, but the Podesta Emails raise new questions. The emails show Podesta and Fernandez communicated with each other shortly before and after he made this claim with Fernandez saying he wanted to do all he can to help Clinton’s campaign. All this adds up to an appearance of a conflict of interest. More information is needed to prove corruption. But, will it even be investigated?”

Sure it will…when Pigs Fly.  And sure; she was for the TPP before she was agin’ it…

Or: Wasn’t it Thomas Wolfe who wrote in ‘You Can’t Go Home Again’  “What this country needs is a good five cent Revolution”?  I’m pretty sure it was…  Meanwhile:


And yes, er…um…as I’ve noted before, Freda can be purdy darned in yer face at times:


Fiddlesticks; the hits just keep on comin’, now from Part II, including gossip, lol:

Ya gotta look inside this one, lol:

Srsly, you’ll wanna click the one above to see the SubTweets; the wags are out in force, lol.

43 responses to “A Ho’ Yotta Fun: New WikiLeaked Clinton E-mails Courtesy of Guccifer 2.0

  1. Hillary Clinton, eyes downcast, stammering: If I talked about droning Julian Assange, “it would have been a joke.” [Offscreen she cackled, “but when I have the throne, it will be my command.”]

  2. re the “explicit DT tape” hmmm…Verizon’s “Access America Tour” and NBC’s (?) “Access Hollywood” are also run by swine? get outta here. fascists have lots of company. and help. though it looks like DT might have been trapped in that bus forever w/o some bush lackey to instruct him in how to open a door. too bad.

    in the “stop attacking Bernie” piece, note how Podesta in his advice for HRC to dovetail w/the Bern’s proposals, uses the example of free college tuition but that “to receive this benefit young people should devote one year to some form of community or public service…” as Ed McMahon used to say, HI-OH!!! yes, let’s get these kids into another tenure, 2-4+ years, in a State holding pen & then have them devote a year (why stop at just one?) working for the Clinton or Gates Foundation.

    and just what the hell can one say about Podesta? (or the Bern for that matter?*) “You have to latch on to Somebody’s coattails, no matter how high you yourself have to try to lift them”? And hope they don’t defecate all over you? (*not referring to Podesta’s allegations about Bern’s misogyny. I find that a little hard to believe, but surely not impossible. I had an ex-congressional staffer, young female, tell me once her advice to such women staffers as herself: “never, ever get on an elevator by yourself w/any Congressman.” Unless being pawed & slobbered on by a Peter King type is your thing?)

  3. “…w/o some bush lackey to instruct him in how to open a door. too bad.” as margaret kimberly tweeted: ‘librul amerika is appalled by his sexist shit, but crickets on drone killings, including amerikans’ or close)

    that’s the thing: the nexus of Power and Sex in the political sphere, mainly the males of the species, or am i wrong about that? back as i can.

    on edit: i find it highly probable that podesta made up that ugly smear on sanders, myself.

    • The contracts say “Mr Trump shall not appear as ruthless as Ms. Clinton” and “Ms Clinton shall not appear as lascivious as Mr Trump.” Now who believes the former and who cares about the latter?

    • The PsyMess being: Morality is for Suckers.

    • I am doubtful too. Doesnt seem the Bern’s style. And vicious slander seems up Podesta’s alley. Quite. Arthur Silber had a post way back “It’s never the sex.” Sex scandals only come out when useful for other purposes. As per J St. Clair at CP today: see JFK, Clinton, Ted Kennedy, etc etc.

      • hmmmm; i’ll go look. but these emails weren’t supposed to become scandals (cough). i was just tryin’ to figure out how to search the emails by terms, silly of me, but some obvious trumpeter supporter put up a tweet with some of the yellowed lines implying that HRC was dissing black, roma, and muslim immigrants as…’faring badly no matter the circumstances (as opposed to hindus/siks, chinese, jews: always successful) creepy, no? wikileaks keeps askin’ folks to identify the exact emails, speeches, whatever, but ish. i’ll just have to let go of it. if it’s for real, why isn’t it featured?

        there’s a live blog of the mails at politico, but i reckon they kept to the tamer ones (with no evidence, i’ll add).

        oh, and a good ‘day columbus bumped into hispanola, thought he was in india’ or whatever…

      • http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/search?q=it%27s+never+the+sex
        several related articles pop up w/that search.

        ah columbus. will the love of discovery ever be separated from the desire to rape the planet? not under Kapital.

        • thanks for the silbur; i know him mainly from alice miller and esp. ‘poisonous pedagogy’ importance, male authoritarianism that can’t be questioned, thus…well you know the rest. he’s still dying and penniless; i gave $ to him a grand total of: once. but imagine, w/ his cranky polemical genius, instead peeps subscribe to (never mind) ian welsh. guess that says it all, eh?

          i read st.clair, quit when it got to actually be a live blog of the duopoly joint press conference (is this really only #2? seems like they’ve bee going on forever. but the bubba quotes about gennifer, a hose and a tennis ball was er…illuminating in a way (is that part of the public record?), but kissinger: imagining him having sex at all, let alone ‘power being the ulitmate aphrodisiac’ (fantasy only?) made my stomach roil.

          gah; somehow it’s a fitting night to have the ranchers just south of us weaning calves. the din shakes one’s brains almost to smithereens. slow elk, ed abbey called ’em. but the autumn light here right now is indescribably ethereal, helpfully. gonna go download some photos….

  4. FixedItForThem:

    Healthcare is one example of many where [crapitalism] trumps the public interest and prevents solving a crisis for millions in the United States.”

    The Market is a fraud.

  5. Luke: Clinktons sold our nuk-u-later resources!

    John: Shite, Hoss, dijint yahno diss here cuntry are enviro-wimps? At least they made a pile of capital gains!

    Matthew: An’ we gets the trickle down, brother. Anyway, we’re covered for Armageddon.

    Mark: Saints alive, those Clinktons sure got this here game figgered out!

    • you’re on a roll, Comrade. may i add:

      “Even If It May Not Be 100 Percent True, If The Perception Is That Somehow The Game Is Rigged, That Should Be A Problem For All Of Us. To function effectively those markets and the men and women who shape them have to command trust and confidence, because we all rely on the market’s transparency and integrity. So even if it may not be 100 percent true, if the perception is that somehow the game is rigged, that should be a problem for all of us, and we have to be willing to make that absolutely clear. And if there are issues, if there’s wrongdoing, people have to be held accountable and we have to try to deter future bad behavior, because the public trust is at the core of both a free market economy and a democracy.”

      “SECRETARY CLINTON: Yeah. Well, you know what Bob Rubin said about that. He said, you know, when he came to Washington, he had a fortune. And when he left Washington, he had a small —
      SECRETARY CLINTON: You go to Washington. Right. But, you know, part of the problem with the political situation, too, is that there is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives. You know, the divestment of assets, the stripping of all kinds of positions, the sale of stocks. It just becomes very onerous and unnecessary.” [Goldman Sachs Builders And Innovators Summit, 10/29/13]

      ha ha ho ho hee hee. ride em, high, hilareee!

  6. HA HA HA HA. Just two years ago Clinton says to Deutsch Bank that only when they are 100‰ corrupt should they fix the corruption. ¡The suckers paid for that Amurkan disinformation! HA HA HA HA.

    They should have known that the only path left is the normalization of fraud. I wonder if they now would prefer to pay their tribute without having to be lectured?

  7. Clinkton’s not winning the poo-fling but we sure are losing.

    • ha; yay-uss. after the duopoly joint press conferences, msn, our email provider always asks on the the front page: ‘the winners and losers from last night?” now how stooopid the plurals are in a binary setup, but anyway, ya gotta yell: “WE ARE!” at the cursed screen.

  8. gotta love it:

    fascinating, but unsurprising

    (dec. 2015 ), esp. what follows: ‘In Speech, Clinton Discusses Threat from ISIS and Reiterates Her Plan to Defeat Global Terror’; solidarity with israel, iran’s extending its reach, delegitimizing israel’; love ya brookings, ‘israel a brave democracy’ (oh my, yes), pass a new aumf, etc. and:

    “We have to pursue a transition away from Assad and an intensified fight ISIS simultaneously. We’re not going to get Syrian opposition forces to fight ISIS in earnest without the credible prospect of a transition. And that’s going to take more pressure and leverage. That’s one of the reasons why I’ve proposed creating a no fly zone and safe havens, as well as more robust support for opposition forces.”

    ““And we can see how Israel’s search for security, stability, and peace goes hand-in-hand with the broader effort the United States must lead to secure and stabilize the Middle East.”

    amen, and happy first night of chanukah…

    • happy chanukah?!? lol, somebody slept thru her bat mitzvah. who ever heard of yom kippur? sounds so made up. at chanukah, don’t jews leave an extra space around the dinner table? for Santa Claus?

      it is amazing to listen to “adults” rationalize HRC’s actions in trying to destroy the lives of Bill’s liaisons while pretending to be ready to march on Trump tower b/c of sleazy & degrading (but quite common) frat boy comments he made. I don’t care that much to think about Kissinger’s sex life, but i always took that “power/aphrodisiac” thing as an expression of his a-sexuality. sex itself is too animal, too human. and looked at HRC the same way. Sex/childbearin’ for her was, in the words of Winston Smith, her “duty to the Party.” I could wiki Kissinger to see if he claims any Moloch mini-me munchkins, but the world is sad enough to contemplate already.

  9. This is fantastic material for playwrights. The implicit motives and relationships go to the fraud that is the Amurkan empire. Our Brecht would be therapeutic because our lives are ensnared in this fraud. It can’t be undone by Clinton not being so deceptive and pushing for the real solution.

    Re the Biblical condemnation of Sodom and Gomorrah:

    verses cited by Michaelson include Jeremiah 23:14,[Jeremiah 23:14] where the sins of Jerusalem are compared to Sodom and are listed as adultery, lying, and strengthening the hands of evildoers; Amos 4:1-11 (oppressing the poor and crushing the needy);[Amos 4:1-11] and Ezekiel 16:49-50,[Ezekiel 16:49-50] which defines the sins of Sodom as “pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and [broke taboos] before me, and I took them away as I saw fit.”

    Even more damning of Amurkan economic culture:

    Rabbinic writings affirm that the Sodomites also committed economic crimes, blasphemy and bloodshed.[41] One of the worst was to give money or even gold ingots to beggars, after inscribing their names on them, and then subsequently refusing to sell them food. The unfortunate stranger would end up starving and after his death, the people who gave him the money would reclaim it.

    Wingnutz ouight be grateful to gays for providing them targets to project vice upon.

    A twisted, tormented culture.

    Thinking to Valentin Turchin’s cybernetic reveries, one must wonder why the “global brain” arises during an abundance deceit. Is it up to the challenge or is it a new theological deceit? Peter Turchin sees the present’s lack of a party to provoke the revolution as an period to avert violence. Perhaps that aversion is the function of the “global brain”.

    In that case, it does not deserve the title.

  10. Regarding “elevating”, I wonder: Just what specifics does that entail? I’d suppose, insofar as we have in the latest leaks as well the revelation that their contacts at CNN were able to give the Clinton campaign team at least one of the questions from the televised town hall in advance, that they have more than just Donna Brazile able to pull off such heads-uppery.

    Given the profusion of Beltway insiders who occupy positions in the press — people who go directly from staff positions to senior correspondent jobs and back again when the opportunity presents itself –, and given what we know about how easily the Bush Administration (and the Clintons are nothing if not the Bush Administration) loaded the nightly and weekend news programs with propagandists for their policy (not like this is anything new, but still), we can easily conclude that even some of the press’ own talk of how they gave Trump too much uncritical coverage was simply an admission of the project underway, but without calling it such.

    My theory involves the oft-speculated “Did the Clintons put Trump up to it?” — a question that gets lost in every pivot back to horse race analysis — seems more likely given what we can see so clearly from the confluence of a mere two leaked emails. Paraphrasing Agent Dale Cooper: “When two separate events occur simultaneously pertaining to the same object in inquiry we must always pay strict attention.”

    • mornin’, davidly. yeah, it would be great fun to see evidence that bubba talked the trumpeter into running. and it might be out there, but not in podesta’s emails. but for the elevation ‘hows’, you can download the pdf’s and check them out from this page of ‘attachments’.

      to say the truth, i hadn’t known that it was a single question (roland martin as the source?), but sure, the librul media is so in the tank for the anointed one it’s jaw-dropping. ‘more nasty rape and grope accusations!!’ and so on. but again, as per brazile, the whole D camp: it would also be cool to see the memos instructing that there be no let-up on the “russians did the hacks” meme, wouldn’t it?

      “i ain’t gonna read those stolen emails” says brazile. wikileaks says there’s a pretty strong movement to prove assange is a pedophile now. few seem to know that the two rape accusers have recanted their stories, either.

      gotta love the dickens outta this one.

      • that 2nd one is hilarious. if this is a tag team match b/n Big Hair & Ms. Kissinger, what’s the end game, beyond HRC winning? militarily useful Russo-phobia, 25% of the population embracing a “stabbed in the back” narrative about “a stolen election,” liberals in horror of the Trump troglodytes, i.e., lots of suspicion, resentment, mistrust, etc., on “both sides,” politics as sex scandals & personalities embarrassing to even Jerry Springer, inflation of trivialities like Benghazi & the email server vs. the larger issue of Libya & the emails’ content, experimentation w/the appeal of an authoritarian/fascist personality, public exposure of multiple scandals & illegalities by both candidates enabling total media control of those candidates, etc., etc. This is the massiest of Mass Spectacles. CP has a quote up from Malcolm X that capitalists put forward Goldwater to scare people into the arms of LBJ. something along those lines but far more coordinated & staged going on here? why not?

        • ‘fitty cent’©; cheap at twice da price! jellyperez seems to have taken her priceless (yes, a pun) tweetie down already, dang it. as far as run-on sentences, amigo: that one’s a real doozy! or the messiest of Mess Spectacles. and fathom all the filthy lucre spent on it; my stars.

          goldwater, arrgh. my mum campaigned for him, handed out copies of ‘none dare call it treason’; i wasn’t sure that my pa wasn’t a bit embarrassed about it, though. but a far as ‘why not here?’, as i remember there was indeed talk that bubba did ask him. but as with droning assange, “if it happened…it must have been a joke”.

          • hard to know for us in the cheap nosebleed seats how much of this is scripted & how much ain’t. Who bought & paid for the stage, props, choreographers, etc., well, that’s easier to figure out. But, to continue w/the theater metaphor, actors upstage each other and maybe will sabotage a rival to get the limelight? no maybe about it. part of the drama may be for each party to demonstrate how far into the other’s back (s)he’ll stick the knife, if given the opportunity. w/in certain narrow parameters b/c it’s obvious there are many things they absolutely cannot say about each other or the way the world really is.

            • you have me curious as to the things they absolutely can’t say about each other, jason. ‘the way the world really is’ i can grok, but since i haven’t seen them spar on a stage together, nor seen quotes save for headlines a-plenty, i don’t know what they really have said. from my headline reading, though, the trumpeter seems to have some mild form of tourette’s syndrome, doesn’t he? i will offer that they’ve occupied pretty discrete parts of the world of power over their lifetimes, though. and continuing the theater metaphor, an oldie but goodie:

              “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

              ~ Frank Zappa

              • tourette’s? lol, perhaps. what won’t they say about each other? it seems like not much. but they hedge things & of course resolutely refuse any system analysis (“the clinton fdtn is the most corrupt org in the world…and they do great work.” “trump’s business model is bankruptcy.” but how is that different from your G Sax buddies, HRC? “but he is a great biz leader & job creator.”) the theater analogy may break down at some point & a sports analogy, mixed-martial arts or…uh big game hunting may be more relevant.

                • ha ha ha. mebbe they both wanna keep the option open of being in t’other’s administration. “ambassador trump” has a nice ring to it it, no? what nation? the phillipines? “Cabinet Secretary of Peace Clinton” sounds purdy kewl, too, eh wot?

                  think how ancient that zappa quote must be, oy.

              • and nice zappa

        • I’d say her winning is such a given that there is no beyond, as such. It is, rather, exclusively, one-hundred percent propaganda & cover for corporate warfare in all its forms.

          • but, as wsws reports today, trump is calling for “extra-political” action of a distinctly fascistic nature. And the sex scandal & Putin-bashing response of HRC/MSM is not a positive sign. and courting the war elephant neocon/billionaire base.

            Part of the pervasive spying going on enables intel services via planned leaks to derail pretty much any big mainstream candidate’s campaign at any time. Certainly these two. DT going off the crazy train rails might not be “stage-managed,” but the public massaging & management of the response to him sure as hell is. He’s not been sinking faster than the Lusitania precisely because he’s useful. The supersleuths don’t sneeze at TV ratings, whatever else may be going on.

  11. now this turned out to be from clinton foundation emails, not podesta. i’ll put assange’s up if only for the graphic art in the subtweets. the video ain’t much.

    okay, no huge surprise, but still, even that much really pissed me off, and yeah, cuz: ‘fucking over everyday haitians has been a long clinton family project‘. so i went lookin’, and here’s the longer story at abc news, believe it or not: : ‘How Hillary’s State Dept. Gave Special Attention to ‘Friends of Bill’ After Haiti Quake’

    “Bruce Lindsey, the chairman of the board of the Clinton Foundation, told ABC News in a written statement that “no special treatment was expected or given.” nossir; just the same old pay to play as usual, but FOB cronies? moar bidness as usual.

    a much longer and infuriating video is on the right-hand corner of the page.

  12. a few more courtesy of jeffrey st.clair: first, the original throw the bernie dog a bone; his ya can’t see too very well:


    • Sometimes self-righteous? I wonder … if Poodesta were to say that a self-righteous Sanders person could do no better than him, would that qualify as pragmatically self-righteous?

      • now yer gettin’ it: the Queen is also a pragmatist!

        • Ooops. That’s from Mark Siegel.

          Palm Beach County Democratic Party chairman Mark Alan Siegel, a Boca Raton attorney and former eight-term New York state assemblyman, told Patriot Update video reporter Scottie Hughes that Christians who profess support for Israel are “the worst possible allies with the Jewish state.”

          “The Christians,” Siegel said, “just want us to be there so we can all be slaughtered and converted, so they can bring on the second coming of Jesus Christ.”

          [… Later, ] Siegel said he was “referring only to the extreme fundamentalists who, partnered with extreme Jews, want to restore Israel to its biblical boundaries. This policy is opposed by both the governments of both Israel and the United States. Ordinary Evangelicals and other Christians obviously do not hold these views. The TV tape was maliciously edited to broaden the reference I made far beyond what I said.”

          HA HA HA HA HA HA. Of course they are the worst possible allies. But they are damn good marks.

          • heh; i gotta say that i’ve long been floored that so many aipac-ers loved hagee’s cufi, given that same notion. well, not the slaughter bits, but that hagee, et.al. know for a fact that jews are going to hell cuz: no conversion. not that jews believe in an after life in any event, as far as i understand it. but where in the world did you see that? ‘ordinary evangelicals’…what a concept.

      • Pragmatically self-righteous is a def keeper !-D

  13. the moral high ground


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