Reblog: ‘From Snowden To Russia-gate – The CIA And The Media’, b at Moon of Alabama

Dec. 26, MoA “In May 2013 Edward Snowden fled to Hongkong and handed internal documents from the National Security Agency (NSA) to four journalists, Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras, and Ewen MacAskill of the Guardian and separately to Barton Gellman who worked for the Washington Post. Some of those documents were published by Glenn Greenwald in the Guardian, others by Barton Gellman in the Washington Post. Several other international news site published additional material though the mass of NSA papers that Snowden allegedly acquired never saw public daylight.
In July 2013 the Guardian was forced by the British government to destroy its copy of the Snowden archive.

In August 2013 Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post for some $250 million. In 2012 Bezos, the founder, largest share holder and CEO of Amazon, had already a cooperation with the CIA. Together they invested in a Canadian quantum computing company. In March 2013 Amazon signed a $600 million deal to provide computing services for the CIA.

In October 2013 Pierre Omidyar, the owner of Ebay, founded First Look Media and hired Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras. The total planned investment was said to be $250 million. It took up to February 2014 until the new organization launched its first site, the Intercept. Only a few NSA stories appeared on it. The Intercept is a rather mediocre site. Its management is said to be chaotic. It publishes few stories of interests and one might ask if it ever was meant to be a serious outlet. Omidyar has worked, together with the U.S. government, to force regime change onto Ukraine. He had strong ties with the Obama administration.

Snowden had copies of some 20,000 to 58,000 NSA files. Only 1,182 have been published. Bezos and Omidyar obviously helped the NSA to keep more than 95% of the Snowden archive away from the public. The Snowden papers were practically privatized into trusted hands of Silicon Valley billionaires with ties to the various secret services and the Obama administration.

The motivation for the Bezos and Omidyar to do this is not clear. Bezos is estimated to own a shameful $90 billion. The Washington Post buy is chump-change for him. Omidyar has a net worth of some $9.3 billion. But the use of billionaires to mask what are in fact intelligence operations is not new. The Ford Foundation has for decades been a CIA front, George Soros’ Open Society foundation is one of the premier “regime change” operations, well versed in instigating “color revolutions”.”

The rest is here.

One commenter brought Arthur Silbur’s Nov. 28: “Earth-shattering!” Bah! Humbug!

“In recent years, one of the most offensive and destructive of these charades has been and continues to be the Snowden Follies, also known as The “Massive” Leak that Changed Nothing Except to Make a Terrible Situation Worse, Which People Would Understand if Only Our Public Debates Weren’t So Goddamned Stupid. We can now incorporate into our joyful holiday celebrations the latest risible sketch in this fifth-rate vaudeville show. Among other offenses, this “new” routine is one that has been performed countless times in endless variations; any slight novelty or interest that the sketch might have offered in a bygone era was worn away at least a hundred years ago. Yet our rulers continue to offer us stale and inedible morsels as if they constituted a seven-course gourmet meal. And many of us eagerly savor and swallow the nauseating swill. A lifetime of propaganda and control will reliably erase the possibility of serious resistance.”

But his Dec. 2The “Intelligence” Fraud (1)‘ is more detailed, part of a series he hopes to write, with internal links to much of his other work on the subject.

“In a post earlier this week, I remarked that I’m working on a new article about the monumental fraud represented by “intelligence,” a fraud that includes “intelligence” itself — that is, the supposedly vital need for “secret information” about everything under the sun, to hear the so-called “intelligence” experts tell this fable — to every aspect of the State’s insatiable appetite for “intelligence,” including all the operations of the “intelligence community.” I’ve decided to start a series of posts documenting the endless “intelligence” failures of the State. Stories about these failures appear with stunning regularity, even in our gutless, monochrome, propagandistic news media.

I included links to earlier essays that explore this issue in detail. The second half of this article offers a good summary of the argument I’ve developed over a number of years. Two other articles I mentioned were this one and this one. (There are many, many more posts about this issue in the archives.) I can state my theme very briefly. Insofar as “intelligence” is concerned, such “secret information” is almost always wrong; on the rare occasions when it is correct, it is likely to be disregarded, especially if it goes against a policy that has already been decided. “Intelligence” is most commonly used as propaganda, to justify policy decisions that have already been made to an alarmingly gullible public.”

Admittedly, my comments are a bit overly-represented on the thread, but as you know, this whole subject is of keen interest to me.

And remember how Ed Snowden said he’d just want to start a conversation, in case people wanted to vote to be spied on?

Snowden to the NY Slimes: So long as there’s broad support amongst a people, it can be argued there’s a level of legitimacy even to the most invasive and morally wrong program, as it was an informed and willing decision,” he said. “However, programs that are implemented in secret, out of public oversight, lack that legitimacy, and that’s a problem. It also represents a dangerous normalization of ‘governing in the dark,’ where decisions with enormous public impact occur without any public input.”

Pffffft.  But meanwhile, the FBI, DEA, Homeland Security, and the CIA ll spy on us, and share their spying among themselves.

From Counterpunch (h/t Mr. wd), December 26, 2017: ‘Lenin Moreno Steers Ecuador Rightward and Betrays the Revolution that Elected Him’ by Joe Emersberger, illuminated the context of these tweets:

He’s got to be pretty concerned that Moreno might evict him from the Ecuadorian Embassy. Remember: ‘WikiLeaks publishes ‘entire hacking capacity of the CIA’, March 17, 2017, Café Babylon


24 responses to “Reblog: ‘From Snowden To Russia-gate – The CIA And The Media’, b at Moon of Alabama

  1. ‘As Russian Election Begins, Will Russiagate End?, Russian politician Alexi Navalny is calling for a boycott of next year’s presidential election after being barred from running over corruption charges. We speak to Professor Stephen F. Cohen about Navalny, the Russian election, and how Russians are viewing the never-ending Russiagate controversy in the US’, from TRNN (includes the transcript)

    odd framing, but as it’s stephen cohen, i’ll bring it. i especially loved this:
    “More generally, there probably are some people in Russia who believe the story that Putin, you know, the story that our so-called intelligence agencies gave us. Though we now know it was just a few guys, maybe a few women, hand-picked by Clapper and Brennan, that Putin issued an order to hack the DNC, take the emails, give them to Wikileaks and make Trump president. Or the story varies, just creates chaos in America because he really wants chaos in America. It’s all preposterous. There are no facts, no logic to this.

    But Russians regard this, some Russians who want to believe that Putin is all-powerful, probably take pride in this. You know, the Americans have pushed us around for 25 years, now Putin gave a taste of their own medicine. And since we helped Yeltsin rig his reelection in 1996, that’s what comes to a Russian mind and we did do that. I was there, I watched it. There’s even a movie about it, there are books about it, Clinton administration boasted on it. But I think most Russians who are educated and there are a lot of them, critical-minded, and who can process the evening news, even if it is Russian propaganda, think the story’s preposterous. They think it has to do with American internal politics, and nothing really to do with Russia. That’s the educated opinion in Russia today.

    • That’s a pretty weird quote. Ive been suspicious of the real news ever since they made their play in Greece, though some of their reporters were trying to swim against the stream. I have a feeling they are a false front, as too the nation (small caps just my Naderite way of looking at things).

      Thanks for bringing it, though. Just call me paranoid

      • trnn has been doing loads of stuff like ‘can the democrat party be reformed?’ and whatnot. but i will credit them for having cohen on. nah, it ain’t paranoid, although i’m at a loss as to what you’d meant referencing greece. no matter what the history, ii did was nre neo-liberal alexis tsipras grovel to herr drumpf at a meal at the white house, including rubbish like “we hare your values”, wretch, wretch. nato bases and ports everywhere now in greece.

        dunno what’s going on, but i have no way of editing comments here now, i just keep get sent to the ‘easier way to blog at WP teeny bopper venue, with no edit functions at all, not even ‘trash’ (for spam, duplicates, whatever). prolly take six hours with the WP ‘hug team’ to see if we/they can sort it out. booo, hisss…

        • I referenced Greece for the way that the real news was covering their situation surrounding the ‘oxi’ vote. Its okay, just my point of view that they featured a gentleman who did not support the opposition to Tsipras at the time. Sorry, can’t remember his name and just remember Zoe was the name of one of the two popular opponents.

      • If you wonder why I think ‘weird’, it could be because I am reading it, not listening to it. Seems to me for a wellspoken man, Prof. Cohen is being too crafty for words.

        For instance “…but I think most Russians who are educated and there are a lot of them…”

        No, sir, really – its not your elite only. It is most Russians! And Putin wasn’t dumb like our bedraggled fringe politicos who only think greed. He actually is what he seems to be, a statesman. So is Xi. Seeing our system already teetering on the brink why should they interfere?They’d be scrupulously hands off, not because they want to see us hurtle to destruction but because they are wise enough to know they would be sucked into that whirlpool as well.

        And they, as some of us, are sad that trumped up animosity is nonetheless frenziedly attempting to keep the polarization they abhor intact.

        We’d better value them while we have them, they are a rare breed that could well become extinct in the very near future.

        • thank you for reading w/ a more critical eye, juliania. i’d thought he’d mentioned millenials, but few of them are for navalny or the communist. i’ll read again w/ that in mind. yes, putin wants a multipolar world, lavrov is an exceptional statesman, and knows when NOT t bite back, which is crucial, isn’t it? xi…biding his time, of course, but i know little about him save what i’d put on a recent thread on ‘Putin is preparing for WW III:

          ‘The Petro-Yuan Bombshell’ by Pepe Escobar, dec. 25 2017
          “Update 12/26: from Pepe Escobar’s Dec. 25 ‘The Petro-Yuan Bombshell’; The new 55-page “America First” National Security Strategy
          “The website of the China Foreign Exchange Trade System (CFETS) recently announced the establishment of a yuan-ruble payment system, hinting that similar systems regarding other currencies participating in the New Silk Roads, a.k.a. Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) will also be in place in the near future.” [snip]
          “The decision follows the establishment by Beijing, in October 2015, of the China International Payments System (CIPS). CIPS has a cooperation agreement with the private, Belgium-based SWIFT international bank clearing system, through which virtually every global transaction must transit.</b

          What matters, in this case, is that Beijing – as well as Moscow – clearly read the writing on the wall when, in 2012, Washington applied pressure on SWIFT; blocked international clearing for every Iranian bank; and froze $100 billion in Iranian assets overseas as well as Tehran’s potential to export oil. In the event Washington might decide to slap sanctions on China, bank clearing though CIPS works as a de facto sanctions-evading mechanism.

          Last March, Russia’s central bank opened its first office in Beijing. Moscow is launching its first $1 billion yuan-denominated government bond sale. Moscow has made it very clear it is committed to a long term strategy to stop using the US dollar as their primary currency in global trade, moving alongside Beijing towards what could be dubbed a post-Bretton Woods exchange system."

          and the key importance of gold, and herr T's staying in afghanistan for the crucial minerals there, and unleashing his oh-so-special ops and mercenaries to 'win in afghanistan!' pence went there this week n a surprise visit and kinda declared his version of 'mission accomplished', lo-bleeping-l!

  2. Thanks for bringing Stephen Cohen here. He points out the extent to which there is a bit of a role reversal between Russian and US journalism with respect to national elections. I think that his analysis is on target.

    Snowden is as difficult to relate to in most news stories as Assange is, and for similar reasons. Both Snowden and Assange have political principles that hinge on the way that they think information technology plays out. I think that Snowden rightly placed the decision-making in the hands of the best journalists he could find. Marcy Wheeler was part of that vetting team at the beginning; I find it interesting that she soon backed out of that relationship.

    MI-5 roughing up The Guardian and the US intelligence services coming after Assange (with UK assist) must have had some effects with “editorial judgement about what they could and could not “safely” publish.

    If Snowden is getting this sort of coverage from b of MOA, it might be that Mr. Putin is getting a little eager to get rid of his “inadvertent” unexpected guest.

    Yes, expect that the US is actively working the diplomatic channels to punish both Assange and Snowden.

    And of course, that includes maneuvering within the list of Ecuadorian presidential candidates. Wonder what it takes to get a PAIS party member to think about ending sanctuary for Julian Assange?

    • my stars, i’d begun to think that you and other babylonian regulars had been spirited away by extra-terrestrials!

      i really appreciate cohen’s essays and interviews, i meant to say ‘putin apologist’ stephen cohen, of course. ;-) he’s rational to the Nth degree, no polemics, r.e. a straight-shooter, so to speak. by the by, bryan macdonald writing for RT agrees that it would be good if the russian G could have retried him, let him get on the ballot…so as not to be able to cry foul from the sidelines. he’d also pointed out that navalny could throw his endorsement to one of the other popular pols, but that…then it wouldn’t be all about navalney.
      i also liked that cohen wouldn’t tke aron maté’s framing reflexively, but then aron is likely feeling his oats after deconstructing the tragic-comical luke harding the other day. ;-)

      re: “I think that Snowden rightly placed the decision-making in the hands of the best journalists he could find.” i suppose so, but especially if you mean the journalists who’d ensure that no actual feathers of the western Imperialists would actually get ruffled, but i did dig this out again, having remembered that ed always claimed that he’d read every document, etc. this ain’t it, but relevant to good whistleblower, bad, imo:

      “Snowden said that he admires both Ellsberg and Manning, but argues that there is one important distinction between himself and the army private, whose trial coincidentally began the week Snowden’s leaks began to make news.
      I carefully evaluated every single document I disclosed to ensure that each was legitimately in the public interest,” he said. “There are all sorts of documents that would have made a big impact that I didn’t turn over, because harming people isn’t my goal. Transparency is.

      He purposely chose, he said, to give the documents to journalists whose judgment he trusted about what should be public and what should remain concealed.” (the guardian)

      on the other hand, assange is both anti-war and anti imperialist, a large distinction. greenwald always checked in w/ the US govt. for permissions, redactions, etc.

      ‘Marcy Wheeler was part of that vetting team at the beginning; I find it interesting that she soon backed out of that relationship’? i knew she was hired as a journalist, didn’t know she was vetting…what, the documents? i do remember when she left she’d made a very public statement about her decision not meaning there was bad blood, etc., but (iirc) she appreciated her home turf more, or close to that. more in a separate comment soon.

  3. Thanks very much for bringing this here, wendye! M of A is one of the most difficult sites for me to read on the phone, particularly the comments, as not only areis the print for it extremely smal, so I’m constantly adjusting, but also scrolling seems,supersensitive there and frequent unwanted leaps into ancient space have me grinding my teeth, the few I jave left (speaking of ancient).

    I did go tjrre and see a very good commeny from you (packed with your usual thought provoking asides, bravo) and one from Grieved that i totally agree with, before I got whacked into the twilight zone. I’ll go back and make another attempt in a bit.

    • awwww, rats. no new laptop for christmas, then? or might it come at orthodox chistmas time? cannae even imagine reading/commenting on a smart phone, oh, ish.

      as i said, i was (ahem) overly represented there, but i also like red ryter’s comments well. some dude named FB went all wild with links, many long comments and along the way called wikileaks a limited hangout distraction, and assange a ‘patsy’ and ‘ego-driven’ (maybe a bit, but not a star like the others, imo). how many leaks WL brought us srsly helped out knowledge of not only inter-governmental cooperative corruption, war, and the various trade deals did they bring? not a limited anything. the nsa files just may be, as we now know how many ministries of truth are spying on us, and sharing data to beat the…band.

      but assange publishing some of the cia exploits? oh, no: not safe at all. nice to see you, ww.

  4. i never actually believed that the guardian editors smashed the drives w/ the nsa files on them, myself. almost too theatrical fr my blood to be believable. but the optics seemed to have worked for the less cynical. is ‘safety’ the prime consideration? well, for some. but remember this from the daily beast ‘exposé’ on assange i’d posted? here’s how to be sure to stay safe:

    ““Much had changed since the foundation was formed. Today it has a $1.5 million annual budget and a staff of 15. Taking donations for WikiLeaks and other groups has become only a tiny part of the foundation’s work. In 2013, for example, the foundation took over development of SecureDrop, an open-source tool designed to make it safer for whistleblowers to submit information to reporters.

    Under the foundation’s stewardship, SecureDrop today is running in dozens of newsrooms, including The New York Times, The Washington Post, the Associated Press, and Bloomberg.” (also politico, huffpo, says GG via tweet-storm, who knows what other stenographers to the Imperium?)

    i also posted assange’s response to having been cut loose by the FPF, an if he’s saying the truth, it’s revelatory indeed. i’ll dig up a few bits and bobs in a minute or four.

    on edit: from this diary:

    “The FPF faces criticism for receiving donations on our behalf, but that is its function. If it bows to political pressure it becomes part of the problem it was designed to solve and yet another spurious free speech organization–of which there are plenty. WikiLeaks cannot be ‘cycled off’ as political pressure increases or as FPF seeks to embrace establishment foundations such Ford, whose historical relationship with the CIA is well documented. To do so is a betrayal of the FPF’s founding purpose.”

    ““Through a Daily Beast article by “Kevin Poulsen”, who interviewed former FPF board member Xeni Jardin, I learned that the board’s weakening resolve is due to a Micah Lee initiative asking his fellow board members to “cut ties” with WikiLeaks.

    Poulsen is a key actor in the imprisonment of Chelsea Manning, and a confidant of Adrian Lamo. Poulsen and Lee have both been developers of SecureDrop. Poulsen manipulated the alleged Manning-Assange chat logs in an attempt to frame WikiLeaks (see for example Glenn Greenwald’s article “The worsening journalistic disgrace at Wired” for more background. As the article puts it: “At the heart of the WikiLeaks/Manning saga lies the efforts of a self-proclaimed journalist [Poulsen] to conceal the truth”). This is the person Jardin used to publicize the move to cut WikiLeaks off from its donor base on Lee’s initiative.

    “..Julian [is] a rapist, liar, & ally to fascists”; “I wonder, now that Obama has commuted @xychelsea’s sentence, will Julian Assange turn himself in for US extradition”; “Julian Assange is not a co-founder of @freedomofPress. This is another lie. I know, I’m a co-founder“; “We can’t trust them [WikiLeaks]”; “Assange’s fall to bigotry”; “WikiLeaks/Julian also champion far-right conspiracy theories”; “Assange makes up a narcissistic, self-serving, offensive conspiracy theiry (sic) to make @xychelsea’s story more about him”; “This is just Julian defending a Nazi” in response to my tweet [“US ‘liberals’ today celebrate the censorship of right-wing UK provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos over teen sex quote.”]…and so on.

    i’m curious as to your linkage of b’s post to the notion that putin might be wanting to have snowden gone, though. explain please? in his new video on ‘the haven’ phone, his little lab was pretty fine an dandy. i have no idea where he lives, myself.

    as far as moreno being willing to boot assange out of the embassy, i suppose it all will boil down to ‘pleasing washington’ and what it means. if it’s ‘pompeo’, look out julian. i mean, the bidness of amerkia is…bidness (molly ivins) he has a few more things re: ecuador on his personal account, but i can’t read spanish.

  5. Again, thanks so much for your postings, wendye. I did just go and read the Cohen interview, and I stand by what I said about the paragraph you posted. Prof Cohen gives only partial truths about what Russians in general and Putin in particular think of the US interference during the Yeltsin years. It wasn’t about Yeltsin being elected. It was about installing the oligarchs and neoconning the economy. We did that to Russia.

    Sure, Cohen objects to the ‘we did it to them, so they can do it to us’ framing – but he then does his own frame of what ‘we’ did. And that’s ultimately more damaging in the long run.

    • thanks for that explanation. as to his remarks on ‘the educated’, what he said was this: “So Navalny, at least based on the polls, is not the strongest candidate. What he does have is a constituency that alarms the Kremlin, and that is young people, particularly educated young people, who like Navalny’s kind of in your face, “you’re all corrupt,” assault on the Kremlin. So, he has real appeal in the country.” i put it down partially to the truth that college kids often are just contrary as they learn new things at school, and like to play ‘subversive’ or some such.

      it’s not analagous per se, but in venezuela, the anti-chavismo college kids would actually set fire to their schools, then blamed it on the pro-goverment activists in the street. macdonald at RT surmised correctly, i reckon, that if navalny stays blocked from candidacy, he will use what political power he has to foment rebellion…in the streets.

      well, anyway, he’s going to be on for a part II.

      • Looking forward to Part II! And seeking a segment to insert the following, your ‘in the streets’ is a perfect segue. A blog I go to on occasion is

        The top post there this morning had a photo I wish I could transfer over – I’ll just give a bit of the accompanying text. Please take it to refer not just to doctrine but to any mindset one may be in.

        “…It is easy to have a facility with doctrine and Christian thought. However, that same facility can be deeply misleading. It is possible to mistake that knowledge for saving knowledge. At the same time it is not uncommon to disregard such things as kindness, generosity, and genrleness as nothing more than ‘morality’. The Christian life [all life] cannot be divided in such a manner…”

        I guess I am thinking now of the shock I got reading Yves’s analysis of the movie “It’s a Wonderful Life” and especially that comments were disabled there. ( I wanted to tell her she was in the movie without knowing it.)

        Sorry to ramble on. Happy New Year!

        • lol on her being in the movie and not knowing it. your link failed, i clicked the main site, found nothing by that name, but i’d thought maybe i could find an url for the image/photo to bring. yes, good thoughts, and thank you for bringing them.

          now cohen’s part II is up, and parts are vexing. so i went a-huntin’ for analyses on crimea and the donbass i’ thunk he’d made before. but: three are verrrrry long, far more nuanced, even down to the actual vote of crimeans to rejoin russia. here’s the thing: if i bring it, shall i try to put together a stnd-alone diary when i have time? time…on the weekends is A Separate Reality. but i’d be glad to if you’d visit and contribute, offer what you remember from four years ago, etc. if so, just whistle! i did save most all the links.

          and happy new year to you, as well, juliania.

          • Sorry that failed. The photo is of an elderly street person bowing down to kiss the hand of a little boy whose expression I loved but can’t really describe.

            I think you can find the blog if you search duckduck for

            glory to god for all things

            Thats how i get to it when i forget the link.

  6. No year that was in re. the matter of the OP would be complete w/o an hour of the man himself down w/ America’s former network sweetheart:

    • ha! wow, purdy posh digs he has! it’s too early to play w/ sound as mr. wd is still asleep, so i tried to find a transcript. i filed, but found this, which may be what THD had been talking about:

      ‘Snowden May Return to U.S. as “Gift” from Russia, Report Says’, fortune

      “The NBC report cites two sources in the U.S. intelligence community who suggest the Snowden proposal is recent, and that it’s one of several options Russia is considering:
      ‘A senior U.S. official who has analyzed a series of highly sensitive intelligence reports detailing Russian deliberations and who says a Snowden handover is one of various ploys to “curry favor” with Trump. A second source in the intelligence community confirms the intelligence about the Russian conversations and notes it has been gathered since the inauguration.

      Snowden also tweeted a recent interview with Katie Couric in which he cited his criticism of Russia’s human rights record, and suggested the Russian government sees him as a “liability.”

      but…the hyperlink only goes to his twit account. wow, does he tweet some odd things. ;-) ‘member you asked about coconut cookies? got any faves? i’m having trouble finding good uns. decades ago i’d invented a pineapple coconut sort, but i have no memory of what the sorta-recipe was. could i take more than a few minutes of him, esp. w/ couric?

  7. re. coconut in cookies, my faves ‘ll hafta be down to my magination. I recall how coconut surprise is a plus, as in, I was surprised at the hint of coconut in my brand of muesli and have since begun to add one part muesli to my two parts oatmeal. Sooo, I imagine coconut in oatmeal cookies’d be grand. But, alas, anything with substantial or saturated fat, cholesterol and the like ain’t good for my liver & its relateds. (long story, don’t ask (cuzin I know you would) hep in the nineties, a weakness for potato chips, gluttony in spite of outward appearance led to a rocky relationship to all thing inside). I’ve been back to healthful for about a year and I ain’t goin’ back. When I die, I ‘d rather be fit flying into the back of a truck on my bike, not holding my innerds in writhing misery or slowly degrading to decrepitude. Fortunately food is doable without the fatty fat fats, even delicious stuff. Sorry for the diversion. Happy New Year, wde et al !

    • oh, poor davidly innards! glad to hear you’ve found ways to be discipline healthful again, but oh, my: the image of you on your bike plowing into the back of a truck….holy cannaloni!

      i don’t like sweets save for a bite, but coconut made my mouth water. i used to put the unsweetened shaved sort in the mass quantities of family granola i made (with molasses, not honey). but i’ll consider the oatmeal fer certain.

      poor ed and his word salad trying to cover for the good he’d made: ‘i try not to think on a trump presidency’. yeah, i started to snooze, and stopped. a hotel, eh? posh++++. his lab was pretty spiffy in that ‘snowden-made’ gizmo. but hey: the roosians are great! who knew? and the spooks leave me alone, hint, hint.

      wikileaks has some foiaed emails up, dunno how, where, who, but a few are singularly interesting to his ‘case’, the first one hinting at what he’d long surmised about SoS clinton’s involvement in sweden. guess i should click on the link… later.

      and a berlin connection. ;-)

      ah, here it is: ‘State Department releases classified emails from Clinton aide Huma Abedin found on Anthony Weiner’s computer’, usa today

  8. oh, and juliania, i went ahead and made a stand-alone diary of stephen cohen, TRNN pt II, and will post it soon. sadly, w/ all my additional digging, it’s a hella lunker.

    • Thanks, wendye. I shouldn’t be so judgmental on Cohen – even if I am right, he’s probably ‘under the gun’ as they say, so could just be trying to get things said that wouldn’t pass muster otherwise. But I’ll check out the second bit and await your post. As you say, so much happening hard to keep things straight, and my memory definitely not the best.

      • it’s up, and i do understand. part II had a few odd-bodkins things a well, so as i said, i went a bingling, likely brought too much 2 read, esp. on a phone. no new laptop then?

        and i found the site, the story, and embedded the heart-warming photo.i’ll delete your duplicate comment on that. the wordpress happppppiness dude showed me a 9-step way to do it, after an hour and a half’s worth of yakkety-yak in tiny window, yesterday; arrrggh.

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