Countering #TreasonSummit on Twitter

Seriously, it’s trending !  #TreasonSummit on twitter

Of course it’s treasonous to keep a campaign promise to ‘restore relations with Russia’, or for Putin to say candidly that he’d hope Trump would win the election…based on that promise.  The transcript of the Press Conference is here, and more later on the breathtaking versions of the #Treason bellicosity, but it was foreordained with the many shouts to the Trump not to make the Summit due to the advancements re: Russiagate, not just the indictment of 12 GRU intelligence assets who’d hacked…the election, but also Two Uses of Russian Novichok™ !.  The second came by way of perfume with pollen on it that will soon prove to have come from a rare Venus flytrap that #Putin has in his conservancy at home.

Never mind: this is the Day Amerika became owned by Putin.  And at the time when Russian-American relations are worse than they’ve been in decades, and the many conflicts threaten to turn any of the Cold War and proxy-wars…hot, even down to nuclear war, what is there to do but meet and talk?They may not have agreed on much, but assented in the truth that both the US and Russia are to blame for deteriorating relations.  Again: #Treasonous!

Here are a few voices of alternative sanity that will of course, be relatively unheard due the cacophonous bellicosity of the #Treasonous din.

NYU Russian studies Professor Emeritus Stephen Cohen says President Trump had no choice but to meet with Putin, blasts ‘pornography passing as analysis’ in the news coverage of Trump. #Tucker

The gay porn is everywhere, but these from the New York Slimes and ‘funny guy’ Bill Maher tell a lot of the story; imagine if a Murdoch-owned news agency had published it instead of the ‘progressive’ New York Slimes cartoon.  Isn’t it…adorable?  Makes mah heart go pitty-pat, it does.

‘Detente Bad, Cold War Good’ former UK ambassador Craig Murray, July 17

“The entire “liberal” media and political establishment of the Western world reveals its militarist, authoritarian soul today with the screaming and hysterical attacks on the very prospect of detente with Russia. Peace apparently is a terrible thing; a renewed arms race, with quite literally trillions of dollars pumped into the military industrial complex and hundreds of thousands dying in proxy wars, is apparently the “liberal” stance.

Political memories are short, but just 15 years after Iraq was destroyed and the chain reaction sent most of the Arab world back to the dark ages, it is now “treason” to question the word of the Western intelligence agencies, which deliberately and knowingly produced a fabric of lies on Iraqi WMD to justify that destruction.

It would be more rational for it to be treason for leaders to blindly accept the word of the intelligence services.” [snip]

“The war-hawks who were devastated by the loss of champion killer Hillary now see the prospect of their very worst fear coming true. Their very worst fear is the outbreak of peace and international treaties of arms control. Hence the media and political establishment today has reached peaks of hysteria never before seen. Pursuing peace is “treason” and the faux left now stand starkly exposed.”

‘Peace Talk Between Nuclear Superpowers Offends America’s Assholes And Morons’, Caitlin Johnstone, July 16

It’s long, but the most relevant parts to this issue:

Communication and understanding in this situation is an objectively good thing. This meeting with Russia’s leader, which all US presidents have done for many decades, is an objectively good thing. If you have joined in the campaign to help shove the tide of opinion away from peace and toward nuclear holocaust, you are making yourself an enemy of humanity. You have become so warped and demented by your hatred of Donald Trump that it has made a part of you less human.

I despise Donald Trump and everything he stands for, and I despise everything that created him. I hate that I have to know his fucking name. But he is the only President of the United States right now, and he is in a unique position to help steer us away from the iceberg and avoid a confrontation that everyone on earth should want to avoid. Any possibility of that happening, however remote, should be supported.

Only assholes and morons oppose these peace talks. If you want to help steer this ship into the iceberg of nuclear holocaust, then I want you thrown overboard. Get a fucking grip, you raving lunatics. Stop this. Stop this immediately.”

Remember as well that it was largely Libruls who were opposed to talking peace with Kim Jong UN.

Trump’s Treasonous Traitor Summit or: How Liberals Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the New McCarthyism’, CJ Hopkins, counterpunch, July 18, 2018

“And so, once again, Western liberals, and others obsessed with Donald Trump, having been teased into a painfully tumescent paroxysm of anticipation of some unimaginably horrible event that would finally lead to Trump’s impeachment (or his removal from office by other means) were left standing around with their hysteria in their hands. It has become a sadistic ritual at this point … like a twisted, pseudo-Tantric exercise where the media get liberals all lathered up over whatever fresh horror Trump has just perpetrated (or some non-story story they have invented out of whole cloth), build the tension for several days, until liberals are moaning and begging for impeachment, or a full-blown CIA-sponsored coup, then pull out abruptly and leave the poor bastards writhing in agony until the next time … which is pretty much exactly what just happened.” [large snip]

“God knows where we go from here. It’s hard to believe the ruling classes can keep teasing liberals, and other Trump-obsessives, over and over and over like this, without eventually impeaching or shooting the guy … but then again, maybe they can. Perhaps they intend to continue conducting this experiment all the way up to 2020, just to see how paranoid and mindlessly conformist they make the majority of the Western public. In any event, if they decide not to impeach him, and then try him for treason, or just kill him, or whatever, the Democrats at least have a new campaign slogan that they can use in 2018 and beyond … “NEXT TIME VOTE FOR WHO WE TELL YOU TO, YOU RUSSIA-LOVING NAZI SCUM!” It kind of has a ring to it, doesn’t it?”

Now he has boatloads of the bellicosity examples in his, many read like satire, of course, given who’s doing the shouting.

Loe Lauria  has more: ‘US Media is Losing Its Mind Over Trump-Putin Press Conference’, July 16, 2028, , consortiumnews.com

And I did a round-up some of the #Fallout of the Treasonous Summit in the last comment at c99percent.

But at the moment, these are two of my absolute faves, remembering when Rachel MadCow was incensed, I tell you…incensed...that the two Presidents would meet behind closed doors with no press listening.

Via RT today: ‘What did Trump promise Putin? Bring his interpreter to Congress & find out, Democrats insist’

“Trump predictably took a lot of flak for the statements he made during the press conference after the talks ended. But what did he and Putin actually discuss at their two-hour meeting? Some Democrats are keen to find out, and suggest his interpreter should clear things up.

The idea was initially voiced by Congressman Joe Kennedy III. “Trump’s translator should come before Congress and testify as to what was said privately immediately,” he tweeted shortly after the president parted ways with Putin in Helsinki.

The call to subpoena the interpreter was picked up by Senator Jeanne Shaheen, who said the State Department official will “uncover” what Putin and Trump discussed privately and help determine what the US president “shared with or promised Putin on our behalf.”

Congressman Bill Pascrell penned a letter to the leadership of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, urging it to hold a public hearing with the US interpreter present at the Helsinki talks. This will reveal what was agreed “behind closed doors,” he wrote.”

“The notion that Trump might be having shady talks with Putin behind everybody’s back was floated by several prominent Democrats, such as House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and the head of the CIA under Barack Obama, John Brennan. “Why did Trump meet 1 on 1 with Putin? What might he be hiding from Bolton, Pompeo, Kelly, & the American public?” Brennan tweeted as the Helsinki talks were commencing.”

“In general, any information that’s confidential has to remain confidential even if you’re an interpreter. For example, attorney-client confidentiality extends to the interpreter,” American Translators Association spokeswoman Judy Jenner told The Hill. “But as a diplomatic interpreter, you are probably aware of how precarious things could possibly be.”

Mega-Lulz for Bernie Sanders who’d Tweeted: “Yesterday was a good day for Putin and the oligarchs in Russia. But it was a bad day for people in the United States and all over the world who believe in democracy and who are trying to understand what world our idiot president lives in.”  Gawd bless him, The Bern knows who he is, and he ain’t ashamed to show it.  Nossir.  Not being in Putin’s Pocket takes precedence over deconflicting nuclear war, discussing nuclear weapons reductions…

(cross-posted at caucus99percent.com)

10 responses to “Countering #TreasonSummit on Twitter

  1. How insane they have all become gives me hope – sensible people,( and there are a lot of them in this country in spite of what some comments around the web keep trying to insist,) can now take a step back and reassess their own assumptions. It has now gone to the point of challenging the fabric of everyone’s lives within the society. It’s not just a question of nuclear war, will they won’t they. It’s a question of impeachment and/or an oligarchical coup in this country.

    See how infected politicians of every stripe have become! I think Stephen Cohen pointed to a single one of them – Rand Paul of all people, who has not joined the maddened throng.

    I dearly hope sanity will prevail. Thanks, wendye – this is the issue of the era, and heaven knows if prevail it will.

    • oh, i’d hoped you’d read it and approve the small counter-narrative, juliania. stephen cohen was great, wasn’t he? the version at c99% (linked at the bottom of the OP, has gone to 80 or so comments, a small portion in disagreement because: trump, liar, slave to israel and bibi. but in the comments i’d finally found a link noting that pompeo and lavrov did indeed talk at the summit as expected, but…on the same site i found this charming, calm, and pragmatic talk lavrov had given in march of 2016.

      i think you’ll love it. remember they’d called him a russian troll at emptywheel? lavrov seems to understand some of the hatred of russia, too, as i remember it. only just over 6 minutes. i’ll also drop in this news on assange, fwiw.

  2. I hope this works:

    This is a Tim Black program I found scrolling through comments at a commondreams news piece titled “Denouncing GOP’s ‘Worthless’…” The article is itself a worthless attempt to resuscitate Bernie Sanders, but comments were interesting – the video is an hour long, but in this heat I found most of it a great way to pass over torrid noontime here. My only caveat was Mr. Black’s avowed hope as a Bernie lover to pull Bernie back from the abyss into which he has descended. I found it refreshing until then, as the B was a lost cause to many of us as soon as he promised to adhere to party choice and morphed into Hillary’s judas goat.

    It’s a powerful callout, nonetheless.

    • Hey, it worked! There is also a good podcast by Stephen Cohen that nakedcapitalism posted yesterday. I will try to link to that.

      • thnks for both; usually cohen’s podcasts w/ bachelor are at the nation, but it’s behind a paywall pretty durned soon, after three hists, iirc.

        i found it good to add putin’s UNGA speech in 2015 over yonder, i know how you’ve always admired it. and i found a transcript as the videos were too hard to hear w/ the high decibels of the translator’s voice.

        wasn’t it ‘amerika, what have you done?’ or close? a few great bits:

        “It seemed, however, that far from learning from others’ mistakes, everyone just keeps repeating them, and so the export of revolutions, this time of so-called democratic ones, continues. It would suffice to look at the situation in the Middle East and North Africa, as has been mentioned by previous speakers. Certainly political and social problems in this region have been piling up for a long time, and people there wish for changes naturally.
        But how did it actually turn out? Rather than bringing about reforms, an aggressive foreign interference has resulted in a brazen destruction of national institutions and the lifestyle itself. Instead of the triumph of democracy and progress, we got violence, poverty and social disaster. Nobody cares a bit about human rights, including the right to life.
        I cannot help asking those who have caused the situation, do you realize now what you’ve done? But I am afraid no one is going to answer that. Indeed, policies based on self-conceit and belief in one’s exceptionality and impunity have never been abandoned.
        It is now obvious that the power vacuum created in some countries of the Middle East and North Africa through the emergence of anarchy areas, which immediately started to be filled with extremists and terrorists.
        Tens of thousands of militants are fighting under the banners of the so-called Islamic State. Its ranks include former Iraqi servicemen who were thrown out into the street after the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Many recruits also come from Libya, a country whose statehood was destroyed as a result of a gross violation of the U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973. And now, the ranks of radicals are being joined by the members of the so-called moderate Syrian opposition supported by the Western countries.” [long snip]

        “First, they continue their policy of expanding NATO. What for? If the Warsaw Bloc stopped its existence, the Soviet Union have collapsed (ph) and, nevertheless, the NATO continues expanding as well as its military infrastructure. Then they offered the poor Soviet countries a false choice: either to be with the West or with the East. Sooner or later, this logic of confrontation was bound to spark off a grave geopolitical crisis. This is exactly what happened in Ukraine, where the discontent of population with the current authorities was used and the military coup was orchestrated from outside — that triggered a civil war as a result.”

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/09/28/read-putins-u-n-general-assembly-speech/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b738de2ec0b2

  3. Not sure this will work – please erase if it doesn’t.

  4. j of 9 in oly

    the word treason itself has no moral content, only political, for the word assumes that loyalty to the state is the highest good.

    but i’m not sure people are not that stupid. or don’t care. or just parrot what’s on the NPR. not just from pages of the NYT etc., but from the way some people talk, it feels like I woke up in the United John Birch Society of America. are people that ready to scapegoat someone, Putin, for their problems? yesterday no one gave a shit about him, at least in terms of causing national woes, & today he’s running the country? does it matter that from 1917 Russophobia has been our national religion, or part of it, with Rus as Satan? etc., etc., etc.

    it’s all so very depressing. but part of it is this gross overestimate of The Last Trumpet bellowing out of the White House. the man can’t read, so how can he be a traitor? for everything he knows about world affairs, he’s got the fucking x head of the CIA feeding him buckets of rich, nutritious CIA baby formula in little loving infant spoonfuls, just waiting for his boy to expectorate something vile all over himself & others, or fling poo at everything, as kids do. “Here, Mr. President. Secretary Pompeo recommended you read, “The Korean Peninsula: A Baby’s First Pop Up Book Adventure.” A person has to know something in order to be in charge, to be running anything, and Trumpet clearly doesn’t know shit. Even in his no doubt corrupt as hell biz deals, he only knows what his lawyers tell him, which info he uses in crude self-interest. but that this is extra-special in his circles…not even worth worrying about.

    and, you know, to quote Langston Hughes, this was never America to me. it won’t be any less or more Murka to me if Putin planted a superspy bug in the Trumpet’s brainpan in Helsinki and is now controlling even his every bowel movement. who the hell cares? so what?

    maybe the CIA can plant a bug in future meetings w/foreign leaders so Clapper& Co can run & tell Sheehan & co what the spooks have found out about what the frickin’ *civilian government* is up to? liberals are so ready for slavery. but we already know that cuz when the spooks spy on the donkeys, they barely flap their gums at all about it. Someone tell Mark Warner he can’t exercise civilian oversight of the spooks while his head is bobbing up & down under Mr. CIA’s desk.

    OT, but just how screwed up is our education? I had a student do a reading on the “creation of grammar” that was pretty difficult for a non-native speaker. I noticed that, unlike other readings in science we’ve done, this article had no attribution for the origin of this research in the creation of grammar. hmmmm…..yep, no Noam Chomsky for you! I am not joking. can’t have the kids googling (or more likely bingling) Chomsky now, can we?

    • yes, charges of treason are very ‘seig heil’, aren’t they? but in this case he’s having to backtrack on not believing the spooks on ‘russia interfered w/ our election’. the twists and turns are hard to watch, depending on the source/s.

      love the US of john birchers, but yes, NATO, which IS the US to all effects, has long noticed how evil revanchist putin is. which was part of the hilarity of ‘putin at nato’ a day or two earlier. some fooking disconnect. ‘pay more dues to fight putin in the EU, but then…getting to know one another in helsinki. ah, fukkit, more tomorrow, i have hegg-ache and tired eyes.

      so good to see you; i’ll email soon.w/ a Q.

    • more lulz for “Here, Mr. President. Secretary Pompeo recommended you read “The Korean Peninsula: A Baby’s First Pop Up Book Adventure.”’
      Pompeo seems intent on nixing any relief, doesn’t he? of course, kim jong un’s recent polemics don’t help much by now, either.

      but as for that langston hughes poem, i must say that it pissed me purple that rev barber was intoning it on all his whistle stops. fer cripessake, hughes was a commie! some adherents of his movement swear his group isn’t a D team cul de sac, but i don’t believe it for minute.

      but i love the #TreasonSummit-ers claiming that at the big meet-up, Trump ruined our democracy!

      but oh, my; ocasio2018 did an interview on firing line, and almost apologized for criticizing israel, and praised the ‘deep thoughts of bill buckley’. and still, horses of articles akin to ‘did she just open the nation to more socialists?’ good gawd all-friday.

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